Are Mexicans a form of cheap labor?

[mooncricketkicker]

I was wondering, do Mexicans work for cheaper? I am sure that they do most of the vegetable and fruit picking, but can you count that, it’s not like anyone else does this and if we didn’t have them we would mechanize the whole operation. Now in my travels across this great land I have worked with thousands of Mexicans, but they were not making what someone would assume an illegal to make. These people were paid handsomely for their labor. These people were not brought in for a cheap source of labor, considering they were making the same wage as any American that was hired. How the plants usually worked was 75% of all the labor was already presently employed with us and we would hire 25% locals. Some sites were different, like Bangor was all American, Texas City was all Mexican. The general laborers were bringing home at least a grand a week; I don’t know too many people who would pass that up for simple manual labor. I think it’s a pretty shitty way of showing the rest of the world how much we respect even our own rules. I know what it takes to become a citizen here, and they are cheating the whole system and benefiting from it with our own tax dollars because that is who is paying their salaries, you. That’s 400 per site and the average site takes anywhere from 6 months to 1.5 years. This is my idea of the cure for social welfare; if you need money to survive you can dig this hole for us. Our government shouldn’t have to pay able bodied Americans to sit at home, and then turn around and pay an illegal immigrant 52k a year to do work for the government. It makes no logical sense to me. Maybe I am just being too analytical to see the judgment in this enterprise. 

[Ronduck]

I'm assuming that these Mexicans were working untaxed, since that is usually the source of their low-cost advantage. In addition many Mexicans collect welfare either in their own name, or in the names of their children, so they are both subsidized and untaxed.

In order to employ a White man legally you have to pay 7.5% payroll tax, unemployment tax, purchase workers compensation insurance, and provide a subsidy for him to buy health insurance.

The system as currently constructed is perfectly designed to give Mexicans an advantage in the job market.

[Cleveland_is_to]

I can assure MCK as far agriculture/food production they are most definitely a form of cheap labor.

My friend worked in a packing plant it was I B P at the time in Sioux City Iowa in 1982 making 14.00
per hour.

That same job today start at maybe $8.00 and they have increased the production line to double what
it was back. The job today tops out at around $ 11.00. This is a union plant. Of course you will see some
whites (usually ex cons). Tyson owns it today.  They actually do 5000 cattle a day at that plant alone

An interesting twist I was trying to get some of the fine fine Navy benefits and found out that some of illegals
 employed by these industries will use your SSI number and pay into it for you.

Fruit and vegetable plants are pretty much all worked by mexicans.. I can't think of any one that wasn't.

So the mexicans do work for very low wages, actually the wages have gone down, while groceries have all
gone up...Makes you  wonder who is behind it all..Just make sure its kosher Or blessed by a priest

[Ronduck]

Or blessed by a priest Grin

Speaking of that, my work sells a product called Baconaisse that has a Kosher certification mark on it from the Orthodox Union. The OU even put their website address for their kosher program on it under their certification mark. I was intrigued enough to look at the ingredients, and there is no pork in it as far as I can tell, but it was shocking to see a product like that so prominently endorsed by Orthodox Jews.

[Detroiter]

Or blessed by a priest Grin

Speaking of that, my work sells a product called Baconaisse that has a Kosher certification mark on it from the Orthodox Union. The OU even put their website address for their kosher program on it under their certification mark. I was intrigued enough to look at the ingredients, and there is no pork in it as far as I can tell, but it was shocking to see a product like that so prominently endorsed by Orthodox Jews.

Like 90% of the everything in the grocery store is Kosher.

[Detroiter]

My anecdotal take on the mexican thing is that for construction they get paid about the same as a highschool or college kid for a summer job.  Here in Michigan that is 8 or 9 bucks an hour.  Also if you're using illegals then you of course don't have to pay taxes like ronduck said.

Messycans also never expect a raise or promotions or have any desire to do anything other than come to work and they will work through horrible and unsafe conditions with no questions asked.

One summer I worked for a roofing company with a whole gang of illegals.  We were ripping off flat roofs that contained pitch tar.  When you tear the dried pitch tar it creates an invisible dust that, when it gets on your skin, feels like a bad sunburn wherever it touches.  Not only that but you're also working in 90-105dF heat.

Well the mexicans I worked with worked straight through the day, never heard even a single one complain even though I knew they had to be burning.

The company was supposed to provide this gel that you rub on your skin and have a garden hose to wet down the roof so the dust stays down....but if you don't complain why would they bother?

Of course I walked off the job that day, they offered me a dollar raise to stay and the next day there was gel and a hose.

The mexican labor might not be a whole lot cheaper than hiring college kids or highschool kids but it's more reliable and they work a lot harder.  Pretty sad, but it's true.

[Ronduck]

The mexican labor might not be a whole lot cheaper than hiring college kids or highschool kids but it's more reliable and they work a lot harder. Pretty sad, but it's true.

My grandparents encountered that a few years ago when they hired a few young men to paint their house. The young men had to be supervised for what they were supposed to be doing.

I know this is repetitive, but in the absence of welfare a lot of people on the lower rungs of society would apply themselves knowing that big brother won't be there for them when they fail.

Of course, if I am wrong and welfare doesn't improve their work habits, then at least we won't be subsidizing the Mexicans or niggers. I think I could live with that outcome.

Since I work overnight I have to open a register around 2 AM so the other employees can buy lunch. One of my Mestizo coworkers came through my line and paid for her meal with a Quest (food stamp) card even though she makes as much as I do. I thought she was using her debit card when she whipped out the plastic, but then I looked down at my screen only to see the words "food stamp total".

In fact there is a guy on the internet who has set up a website explaining how to collect food stamps in AZ:

http://www.arizonafoodstamps.net/

The man in question is setting up a site for every state, and I think he is working on setting up sites for other forms of public assistance too. Here is the man's Youtube account:

http://www.youtube.com/user/Northlake1222

[Detroiter]

The mexican labor might not be a whole lot cheaper than hiring college kids or highschool kids but it's more reliable and they work a lot harder. Pretty sad, but it's true.

My grandparents encountered that a few years ago when they hired a few young men to paint their house. The young men had to be supervised for what they were supposed to be doing.

I know this is repetitive, but in the absence of welfare a lot of people on the lower rungs of society would apply themselves knowing that big brother won't be there for them when they fail.

Of course, if I am wrong and welfare doesn't improve their work habits, then at least we won't be subsidizing the Mexicans or niggers. I think I could live with that outcome.

Since I work overnight I have to open a register around 2 AM so the other employees can buy lunch. One of my Mestizo coworkers came through my line and paid for her meal with a Quest (food stamp) card even though she makes as much as I do. I thought she was using her debit card when she whipped out the plastic, but then I looked down at my screen only to see the words "food stamp total".

In fact there is a guy on the internet who has set up a website explaining how to collect food stamps in AZ:

http://www.arizonafoodstamps.net/

The man in question is setting up a site for every state, and I think he is working on setting up sites for other forms of public assistance too. Here is the man's Youtube account:

http://www.youtube.com/user/Northlake1222

Cool, I fully support this guy's efforts.

Overloading the system is a perfect way to make sure it fails.  A easy to follow video with tips to ensure that people's applications aren't denied is freaking genius.

[Ronduck]

Cool, I fully support this guy's efforts.

Overloading the system is a perfect way to make sure it fails.  A easy to follow video with tips to ensure that people's applications aren't denied is freaking genius.

If you click on the link marked arizonafoodstamps.net the video will immediately start playing. If you look closely the man making the video looks Hispanic. I did a DNS search for the guy and using his name I found his personal website:

http://pascalbergeron.com/pascal-bergeron/28

If you click on the link for his wife you will see that she is a Negro. I don't think this is some superclever ploy to overwhelm the welfare system, but rather natural sympathy on his part for other coloreds. Weirdly enough the man says he is from Canada, so he could in fact be Arabic or some freakishly rare ethnic group that we here in America wish we had never had here.

[Detroiter]

If you click on the link marked arizonafoodstamps.net the video will immediately start playing. If you look closely the man making the video looks Hispanic. I did a DNS search for the guy and using his name I found his personal website:

http://pascalbergeron.com/pascal-bergeron/28

If you click on the link for his wife you will see that she is a Negro. I don't think this is some superclever ploy to overwhelm the welfare system, but rather natural sympathy on his part for other coloreds. Weirdly enough the man says he is from Canada, so he could in fact be Arabic or some freakishly rare ethnic group that we here in America wish we had never had here.

Either way, I think it's great.

[GraveyardDave]

Id have to say yea there a cheap form of $$$, but i dont see many around here in Macomb county. I hear there just as bad as Niggers in Texas

[Detroiter]

Id have to say yea there a cheap form of $$$, but i dont see many around here in Macomb county. I hear there just as bad as Niggers in Texas

When I was in Texas I definitely felt like a minority.

[GraveyardDave]

Damn! Are you serious Detroiter, thats fucked up if it is like that. This country is going to be Insane in 30 years, meaby even 20

[Dave]

When I was in Texas I definitely felt like a minority.

I live in Texas and I can attest to what Detroiter said. There are White areas but, if you go to the cities he is dead on. From my well traveled experience almost all cities in our country have been saturated with muds. The sad truth is that if you want to live among your own kind the only option is to live in the sticks. If you build a city, muds will come.

[GraveyardDave]

Isnt it truly sad that thats a true fact.